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I noticed something very odd!
When a player reaches 31-32 years old, his training points drop a lot, and he advances very slow
Per the Help guide, after 33 years old it should drop into minus points at the same rate it slowed down, but I noticed my players lost 3-5 physical points per each skill in a season and a half.
Has anyone else noticed the same thing? |
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Maybe the new server came with a few modifications...it would be helpful to get rid of older players easily. I know some teams would be reluctant towards this...but this game is almost dead for real.
I don't have old players so can't say anything about this.
P.S. Any news from the big boss about your offer to improve the game?
Cheers and good luck! |
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| ady_aly | |
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This is something I noticed before the new server upgrade.
I also don't have old players  I think everything under 40 years is okay, and mine are mostly 30-35
Still no answer from anyone  |
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ady_aly wrote:
This is something I noticed before the new server upgrade.
I also don't have old players I think everything under 40 years is okay, and mine are mostly 30-35
Still no answer from anyone
You are right, thus is way I can't be bothered to develop their skills higher than 13.
O the other hand, yes they are growing so slow at 31/32. For example , a 32 old year player didn't get any point for defence skills for more than half of session ( with level 20 coaches)! |
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| I am not able to draw any conclusions due to the age of my players, but I was quite curious about that as the Poland NT manager. I saw that physical skills of older players are dropping pretty fast what surprised me, but I do not know, maybe it was just a feeling. Furthermore, I've never had too many old players, at least I do not remember of such times, so I can not tell you anything more, because I do not have such experience. |
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Here is the concrete example:
I have a screenshot of my Zvjezdan Badrov at his 33 years old, beginning of the last season season:
Agility 19
Speed 17
Strength 18
Jumping 15
Stamina 19
His skills now, at 34 years old, after only one season and a half:
Agility 15
Speed 13
Strength 14
Jumping 13 (because it cannot go lower)
Stamina 15
I am very disappointed to see this, because he gained very little at the year 32, which should be the same in +trainingPoints, like 34 in -trainingPoints
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| Players that are 33 years old get no training points. They also lose from 10 to 15 points on Agility, Speed, Strength, Jumping and Stamina each training cycle. - Players that are 34 years old get no training points. They also lose from 16 to 20 points on Agility, Speed, Strength, Jumping and Stamina each training cycle. - Players that are 35 years old and above get no training points. They also lose from 21 to 25 points on Agility, Speed, Strength, Jumping and Stamina each training cycle. |
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ady_aly wrote:
Here is the concrete example:
I have a screenshot of my Zvjezdan Badrov at his 33 years old, beginning of the last season season:
Agility 19
Speed 17
Strength 18
Jumping 15
Stamina 19
His skills now, at 34 years old, after only one season and a half:
Agility 15
Speed 13
Strength 14
Jumping 13 (because it cannot go lower)
Stamina 15
I am very disappointed to see this, because he gained very little at the year 32, which should be the same in +trainingPoints, like 34 in -trainingPoints
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It is normal. Not bug. Practically, the player here is already at the peak at 31 years old, because in the last 2 seasons of growth, the improvement is minimal. (that's why I had discussions with you about training the other skills to the maximum, because the benefits of the physical ones will go away very quickly, and the others that you wanted at the expense of the physical ones will not remain.).
But I'm not saying that the physical ones aren't important. On the contrary! In my opinion, it is important to have a certain number of players with above-average physical fitness in the team.
That's why when I read here the hope of modding this game.... Be careful not to destroy it completely. For example the retirement of players!! In my opinion it is nonsense for players to play past 40+ years, but it is also nonsense for NT players to retire normally like everyone else! Because a player can announce his retirement at the age of 30 and play at the top level for only 1-2 seasons. But his upbringing lasts 13 seasons. Very quickly there would be no players in the game. + players in the top divisions would not be able to play long at the top. Because the financial difference between the leagues is zero, but keeping players for the top division is financially incomparable to the 2nd division.
It is therefore difficult to play at the top level and at the same time educate the next generation. Then it would be impossible.
It is a difficult theme. |
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| ady_aly | |
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Hadar wrote:
Players that are 33 years old get no training points. They also lose from 10 to 15 points on Agility, Speed, Strength, Jumping and Stamina each training cycle. - Players that are 34 years old get no training points. They also lose from 16 to 20 points on Agility, Speed, Strength, Jumping and Stamina each training cycle. - Players that are 35 years old and above get no training points. They also lose from 21 to 25 points on Agility, Speed, Strength, Jumping and Stamina each training cycle. |
I knew this  but it seems I miscalculated something, I'm definitely wrong with this one. |
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| ady_aly | |
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@Alexsoulsay
If you referring to my wish to contribute to the game, I wouldn't do anything that is not agreed here in the community.
For physicals, so far I didn't see any advantage, literally any advantage, and I had players with 16-17 physicals!
For modifications, my suggestions would be:
- Increase the training rate by some percent, so we don't need to wait 5 real years to develop a player. e.g 20%, so the player is at his peak at 28 years old
- Release ALL players on the season turnover, if they passed 40 years.
- At 33 years old, ALL skills are beginning to drop, not only physicals.
With this, we would effectively have top players in their age of 28-32, after that they are rubbish and players would be forced to find replacements.
It would be much more interesting if NTs would be with players 17/18 skills, and only some of them are 19s/the 20s
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